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Yesterday, cover designs. Tomorrow, Kerry Nietz. What, you might ask, is the connection between a parenting theology study and swashbuckling Christian science fiction? Between an examination of areas of the Christian subculture in America and an examination of the potential impact of Islam on the future?
In the course of research and keeping up to date on the freedom-from-false-religion parenting community, I found a blog called Baptist Taliban Memoirs. The author documents the contrast between the life she lived in a rigid religious community and the freedom in Christ she’s now found.
Extreme name?
I found out the reasons.
We connected on Facebook, and I commented that I appreciated the train of thought in her latest post, Prodigal Malpractice. Now, I want to document what happened next, because there’s a definite countermove which insinuates that those Bible-believers who call a snake a snake have shifted into liberalism, or even (gasp) apostasy.
One, a Pearl type showed up and quoted the standard Proverbs argument that if parents would only “train” their children properly with corporal conditioning, there would be no prodigals. Therefore, allegedly, any prodigal is the fault of the parent’s lack of obedience to so-called biblical training. Then because we didn’t snap to attention and listen, we were told this:
Peter J Schultz I didn’t waste my time. It will be read back on the day of judgment and you will be responsible (if what I’m saying lines up with God’s word) for it whether you read it or not. (Accessed May 26, 2010)
To which I replied:
CathiLyn Dyck And you, sir, will be directly responsible to God not only for putting it out there, but for “the results of [your] deeds.” (Jer. 17:9-10)
Second, another Pearlite showed up and pulled a standard Baptaliban maneuver on me (please note the humour — I’m a Baptist, immersionist, etc — you can check the Semper Fidelis page for details), proceeding to attempt to drown me in a raging flood of overwhelming illogic, miscomprehension of hermeneutics, and general ill taste. It opened with:
Randy Hartinger Mr. Dyck, Several things. First, 2 Tim. 3:16 says that ALL SCRIPTURE IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE. Read that again and let it sink in…
Amused, I replied:
CathiLyn Dyck Randy Hartinger, if you had even taken the time to note my name is CathiLyn, a woman’s name, I might be able to take your hypothetical concern for my spirituality seriously. You haven’t even paid attention to who you’re talking to. And that tells me you’re not really talking to me at all. Certainly not *with* me.
This isn’t a conversation, and it is over. Goodbye.
Hint taken? Not likely. This is a holy war–! Press on! In addition to another bombardment of silly walks which could not possibly be mistaken for the genuine Christian walk, mostly aimed at the husband of the BTM blog author for not being in control of his wife and children, I got a final nod. Back in your place, woman! Feel the sting of the mighty verbal whip of incoherence and badly-covered incompetence!
Randy Hartinger …Sorry, Mrs. Dyke, I thought you were a man. You throw your weight around in a masculine fashion and seem to enjoy fighting with men per your previous posts. You aren’t moonlighting as a cage fighter then (Bantam Weight)?
I honestly do not know what Dave’s going to do when he sees that. I mean, it’s his name the guy’s taking in vain.
I honestly do not know what my guy pals, never mind the gal pals, are going to say when they see that.
But I know that I can predict their outrage, their disgust and their chivalry. And I realize what a blessing that is, to be respected and valued for who I am, allowed to be a woman, freely. Safely. Besides my husband’s constant support, the guys around here — Hank, Marc, Randy, Johne, Walt, Shamus — have affirmed my voice, as outsiders surveying my written thoughts from an objective viewpoint.
Not a one of these has ever mistreated me. I see the difference. I know that there is a place for scorn. A place where it is comforting. Because the fear of the Lord is to hate evil. (Prov. 8:13) And the fear of the Lord among my circle is a hedge around me.
In the knowledge of my husband’s love and honour, and the friendships which surround us, I did not reply directly to the aggressor. I chose to speak with the safe man in the room, the blog author’s husband, who had taken up Scripture and defended me — a stranger — on sheer principle.
CathiLyn Dyck The difference in the respect and grace my husband and his circle, and you yourself, give to me is blatantly clear, and makes it impossible for me to confuse a counterfeit Christian’s clumsy foolishness with genuine biblical manhood.
I will speak to you anytime, and I will avoid the counterfeits from the outer darkness. I choose safe and grace-filled conversation.
I appreciate your kindness and your longsuffering in defending the Word of truth and making a safe haven for believers. That’s a very important work, and again, sir, you have my utmost respect.
Actually, I’m a very small person, so there’s not much weight for you to defend. :~) But thank you. Truthfully, I laughed: even the insults are parroted from known pseudo-Christian ministries. If I saw an original thought of any sort float by, I might encourage its frail seed for its own sake, but clearly there’s no point…
I love this theory that it’s inherently against nature for me to have a voice as a woman. The mental burqua has been handed out, hasn’t it? Though inevitably, not without tripping over the fabric and entangling oneself in a mess on the floor for the whole world to see.
I believe we’ve solved the mystery here: it’s Peter Sellers, in the chapel, with the Clouseau routine. :~)
All I can say is how deeply I feel for women who are cultured to believe that kind of outlook is normative. Who speaks for them? Who sees? Well, as Christ-believers, we know Who sees. But at the same time, if we cannot love the brethren whom we do see, how can we claim to love God whom we cannot see? And once again, I’m all the more thankful for gentle truth-speakers, writers, thinkers, leaders in grace.
Today, for me, the situation of the Schatzes and the destruction of their family in the pursuit of God became a little more real. How can we not stretch out our hands to save lives?
Breakdancing elephants and changing the world. I can sign up for that.
Smile at the gentleness of Him who leads us, and be truthful today.
(HT on Zoo Seven: Ratbert)

Your guy pals are going to entirely apologize for the entire male gender, that’s what. (I wouldn’t dream of sending you back to the kitchen. You’d just be underfoot! Hah!)
I would not dream of attempting to get underfoot in your kitchen, my good chef.
My soul is soothed by your kindness, but I can’t claim to have a problem with the entire male gender. You yourself are most welcome here, for instance.
The world is full of ignorant people. I’m sure I’m one of them. In fact, we all probably qualify! But I’m honored to be acquainted with so many folks who are willing to be a light in the darkness and stand against both ignorance and apathy to the best of their ability.
P.S. The music video is hilarious!
Well, we’re delighted to have you here too. :~)
Isn’t that the funniest video? I love it. So quirky.
“if parents would only “train” their children properly with corporal conditioning, there would be no prodigals. Therefore, allegedly, any prodigal is the fault of the parent’s lack of obedience to so-called biblical training”
So….let me get this right….by this reasoning Adam’s sin was God’s fault? He should have trained him better?
Anyway, you’ve happened upon the very topic my dear one and I are busy writing in our joint blog about. You make me look like a mental invalid, but somehow have also inspired me as well. Good work Featherweight.
“Featherweight”
I love it! I’m keeping it!
“by this reasoning Adam’s sin was God’s fault? He should have trained him better?”
See, that’s like a major linchpin that seems to be missing from all this stuff.
You know earlier today Shamus and I were debating about whether he should post a link to your book covers on his blog and suggest people come over and vote. I mentioned that I thought you were very capable of holding your own against all the atheists he could send. I believe he is considering it, and seeing this I am even surer that you can and could. You amaze me, my friend, as I am naturally the cowering in a corner with a book lest I make eye contact sort.
I would love to have some atheists in. Talking with them is like going home for tea, much nicer and more interesting than the mental burqua types.
Ratbert kindly stepped in and said a few very wise words to the tom-fool who did this as well, and Dave’s done the same since he got home from work. So great a cloud of witnesses.
One thing I may have to do is start a wall of shame page. I kid you not, this is the most intellectually respectable portion of the gentleman’s diatribe. I was doubled over laughing out loud at some of it!
I will tell him when he wakes up. He is always so careful about his posse because he knows I am rather sensitive. (Which I hate about myself but it is what it is and I is what I is.) And he has been trying to decide the best way to share my new art site, but again, has been nervous about it because if someone gets nasty I don’t handle it well.
Cool. There’s lots of buffer around here, so that’d be totally fine with me.
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Speechless. Just speechless.
Not that that kind of thing surprises me….As my grandmother was fond of saying, “You have to consider the source”.
My own light note to add here, is that I keep an email address in my cat’s name–for my peace of mind as a woman living alone. And every day, my first chore upon accessing said account is to eliminate all the ads for a variety of [ahem!! cough, cough!!] shall we say, “unseemly” merchandise being offered at “fabulous discounts” to “Mr.[Flowery Flower Name]“.
Apparently purveyors of internet porn, shady {75% Off!!} pharmacies, and Dispensers of Burquas have more in common than even I had suspected.
Thank Heaven for a sense of humor! Without it, whatever would we do?
God bless all here.
Oh, you made me laugh. Thanks! I got up this morning and found my desktop computer dead as a stone. On the run here, just stopped at the library to check in on my way to the city. Definitely, thanks for lightening my day.
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